The bulls are running again. The Dow Industrials printed 14K before pulling back. Copper turned positive. Everything is going the bulls way once again. New money flowing in to start the month helps as well. Consumer Sentiment and ISM were a bit better than expected which helps maintain the elevated markets. The Sentiment was surprising since the Consumer Confidence number reported two weak months; the anticipation would be that Consumer Sentiment would be lackluster. The jobs report is nothing to be happy about, a paltry 157K that does not even handle the new folks entering the work force let alone add jobs. However, traders continue to ignore any bad news and focus on the good news only. The higher job revisions for November and December carry the day. The 10-year yield dropped to 1.93% then recovered to 1.97%. Money is flowing into bonds and notes not out. So the bump in the equity markets are more due to momo players and new February money coming into the market, and perhaps Aunt Nellie placing her life savings in the market right now, rather than a rotation from bonds to stocks. AAPL is down on the day. Mixed market signals continue. David Tepper, Appaloosa Management, who is calling for a huge market rally, just like he did in late 2010, due to all the Fed's easy money, is looking like an Einstein so far, a second Tepper Rally.
UTIL tested 475.49 today. A close above here will set up next week in favor of the bulls. The SPX punched thru 1504 so it ran to 1511. The HOD is 1511.42. The 8 MA is surprisingly below the 34 MA on the SPX 30-minute chart still yet but it should pierce up thru at anytime. The only thing that would prevent this is a sharp market downdraft right now. TRIN is 0.81 favoring bulls so the markets will remain elevated unless the TRIN moves back towards 1.00. Keystone took the overnight profits on the NEM long trade exiting the position. The trade will pay for lunch today. Will look to reenter, NEM remains attractive.
Note Added 2/1/13 at 12:30 PM: The euro popped above 1.37 in a wild short squeeze; the euro shorts are running for cover. Higher euro = higher markets. Interesting drama today with UTIL 475.49. The bulls must push thru UTIL 475.49 to tke the broad indexes higher. UTIL is now printing 474.83. Tom DeMark, a market timer receiving notoriety these days for calling a bottom in AAPL and a top in the SPX a week or so ago, said on a CNBC business news channel interview, that the same calls remain in place. Tom said Monday morning could bring a gap up to 485+ for Apple which would constitute an island reversal (reference the daily chart--the pattern is easy to see). So Tom thinks you can buy Apple here for a long. On the SPX, even though price moved thru his 1492-1493 top target and continues higher, he still expects a roll over. Tom also said the Shanghai is close to an exhaustion move now. Interestingly, using the FXI as a proxy, this comment correlates with Keystone identifying the negative divergence with FXI and positive divergence with FXP. FXI moves higher with China and the Shanghai; FXP is the inverse ETF that moves higher if the FXI and Shanghai roll over. The SPX pushed thru the 1511 resistance; see if price is able to close above 1511 today, or not. SPX S/R is 1505, 1511, 1516, 1518, 1520 and 1524 (12/11/07 top). Thus, the breach of 1511 opens the door to 1516. The 8 MA pushed up thru the 34 MA on the 30-minute chart signaling bullish markets for the hours and days ahead, cheating the bears once again, not allowing so much as a one-day move for the 8 to stay under the 34. TRIN remains strongly bullish today at 0.84 so bears have no chance at a market reversal unless the TRIN climbs. VIX is under 13, traders are bullish expecting the upside to continue indefinitely. Watch UTIL 475.49.
Note Added 2/1/13 at 1:52 PM: UTIL 474.68. Interesting. The SPX HOD is 1514.22. The Dow Industrials HOD is 14013.79. The volume is lackluster today; the NYSE is at a run rate of about 85% of a days average expected volume, however, considering the new month in flows, volume will come on stronger at the close and should close above average today. Same old routine as the last couple weeks or so. The SPX punches out a new high but the indicators are not enthusiastic, setting up with negative divergence, which creates a spank down, and then bullish traders run in to push prices higher again. Typically, the negative divergence spank down is expected to have more legs. The hourly and minute charts are setting up with negative divergence again, same old thing, perhaps the action will become interesting into the close today. UTIL hourly and daily charts are setting up with negative divergence as well. The Egypt turmoil grows as thousands of protesters are descending on Morsi's palace and fire bomb devices have been thrown over the walls of the palace. Amazing how traders are not paying any attention to geopolitical events. The rise in oil will raise gasoline prices at the pump.
Note Added 2/1/13 at 4:22 PM: Traders had their eyes on Dow 14K from earlier this week and the headline writers have another easy weekend ahead; "Dow Hits 14K." The SPX places a new high as well going back to 2007 at 1513 with a HOD at 1514.41 at 2 PM. The TRIN sat at 0.85-ish all day long so the fix was in favoring the bulls. UTIL was very interesting today attacking the 475.49 mentioned this morning but unable to close above. The bulls must go through UTIL 475.49 to pave the way higher for the SPX. UTIL closed at 474.53 so the bears have a feather for their caps despite the big up day. The UTIL 475.49 is important for all of next week, so, if you see UTIL move above at Monday's opening bell, the bears do not have a chance, the bulls will be running higher once again. If UTIL sells off or stays under 475.49, the market bears are not giving up and are positioning themselves to growl strongly.
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Today's action eliminated one of the 2 possible counts I suggested yesterday: that we were in a larger degree 4th wave; which would target a 3-5% haircut. The past 2 days were simply a 4th wave in a larger degree 3rd wave, and today is the start or a whole 5th wave (5th waves are tricky and often stop short of reaching targets). My IT term target is ~1520; from which that 3-5% retrace will start, only to be followed by more highs...
ReplyDelete3rd wave- up to 1520-1527
Delete4rd wave down to 1465-1475
5th wave up to 1565-1585 (1600-1615 with a little bit of luck)
;)
V.
Anon, IMHO you nailed it. Be weary though that the SPX is now really in the "margin of error" area, where 1515ish can be good enough... I'll probably take my longs of the table for the weekend so I can sleep in peace with a nice profit in my pocket :-)
DeleteI prefer the 1600+ count since new all time highs will (finally) suck in the retail investor, mom and pop, etc, and those always end up to the be bagholders... >1575 will even make the last bear capitulate. Everybody long, no body short: pffffff the air goes out of the balloon. Develish but often how the market runs...
@ Arnie:
DeleteYes Arnie that's the way the things work ... the situation with 5 dancind persons and 4 chairs... music ends and one will remain without a chair.
As per my opinion the real danger zone is 1578 - 1600+.
Anything over 1600 (strongly over i mean) in the present economic context would be the clear sign of a classic bubble.
for all friends here watch out what the spaghetti guy from ECB will do with the euro rates on Feb.07 ...
V.
Yup, we won't learn from previous bubbles, so the next one is already in the making when we're still talking about the previous one... that's just man's destiny when it comes to financial markets "greed" will surpase logic and reason. But bubbles are also as natural as crashes. Yin and Yang, light and dark, fire and water; bear and bull. We need them both.
DeleteIf correct, then once we hit 1600+, we'll likely experience a 40+% haircut, down to 1100-1000 region again. That's going to be some serious wealth-destruction. But, let's not get to far ahead of our selves and trade as the days come. For now; up it is... but for how long... ST I mean.
Looks like UTIL 475.49 will be key today. It actually does not come into play until next week, but the close today at 4 PM will dictate where the open occurs. Market bulls need to push UTIL over 475.49 and higher and next week will be looking good for longs. If UTIL weakens into the close and stays under 475.49, the bears can take comfort in that and come back to fight on Monday.
ReplyDeleteBoy and they are only doing 1 billion of POMO today. Just think when they ramp it up to 3.5 billion on Monday...
ReplyDeleteLol, please don't forget all the new money flowing in from fund managers etc since it's the first of the month and everybody's paycheck is at work. I sold my SSOs at $67.90 today. No reason to let a profit go to waste, IF the upside is max 20 points, but the downside 40+ points....
Delete@ Zig,all:
ReplyDeletei have a feeling that this POMO month after month will step by step get us out of the multiannual zig-zag saw since 1997 ... i know that this kind of thoughts are signals of market tops , and stuff like that .... but a top and a fallout after that when appear, appear naturally , they are not supervised day after day with POMO liquidity by FED madly enraged by the fake idea of "wealth effect" created by the stocks.
According to this idea the FED wants to strongly devalue the dollar and to gonflate the stocks. You've seen the stocks in January - more than 5%+. If we count 5% x 12 months = Damn! 60%? rise? And the equivalent inflation annualized level would be what at this level of stocks annual rise? Damn!
V.
All I know is, right about 1575 my cabdriver will be saying he just bought GOOG and then I sell everything in my IRA. Only half-kidding...
ReplyDeleteKS, didn't even notice that DOW is now at 14000... wow. and as for the gasoline prices you mentioned; ours went up from 3.49 to 3.85 overnight.... oh that wealth-effect is feeling great, especially when i re-open my paycheck and see that i now make less than last year due to the expired social security tax break... oh I am so wealthy... if i didn't dabble (successfully) in stocks I'd be broke by now...
ReplyDeleteThe Fed pumping is very interesting since the purchases that replaced Operation Twist have more oomph to them. This is why Tepper calls for these rallies, Fed-induced money orgies. It is fascinating action to watch, the markets feel very special these days. This is a special time. UTIL did not close above 475.49 so this allows the bears to remain in the game come Monday. Be wary, since the days are non-stop goosing, the maximum number of traders would be hurt by an overnight event. Well, we have three nights until Monday. Watch to see if any company releases news under the cover of darkness in the coming hours, like CAT last week.
ReplyDeletefor me the FED intervention is just like a rape of free (?) markets. It's the constant refuse to accept that each full economical cycle has 4 phases and one of them conceives deleveraging, recession and maybe depression. FED acts like some Merlin, the Wizard, but what they will succeed will be just a down overshooting effect when markets won't react to money stimulus anymore.
ReplyDeleteThe relation between the markets and natural status of the 4 economical cycle can me summarized somthing like that : you can run , but you cannot hide - as a subtle message for the FED wizards that make such "live" experiments on large financial systems.
I'm not mad on the situation , it's every trader's dream to be backed by the central bank, no ?
No.
Cause the markets aren't free anymore and the rules are fully distorted.
Does prove TA useful in a market where you know even the hours when the money is poured into the market?!?
Yesterday KS (and others) identified correctly a set-up on spx/es of H&S (maybe) sustained by all the rest of the stuff (negative divergence, signal indexes - nysi, vix, ...)...but.. lack of fortune, it was a POMO day!
It's not ok what is happening! A financial mirror of real economy (the stocks market) is distorted in the most extended way!
Ok, i've told my word here... sorry KS if the message was too long or if i'm trolling (i like this word how it sounds :D ''trolling") ...
V.
Arnie,
ReplyDeletelittle confused ,are we in the 3rd wave - 1520 now or 5th wave?
You say we in the 5 the wave but ,anon says 3rd wave starts from 1520 and we have not seen 152o yet?
@Anon:
DeleteNo. A little bit of explanation as per my view.
As per my opinion, we are now in sub-wave (3) of wave 3. The wave 3 started at 28/31.december.2012. So there are 2 more subwaves of wave 3 that will finish , maybe, around 1565-1585. And that's it( so the 4th and 5th subwaves of wave 3 INCLUDED!).
Then we have wave 4.
Then we have wave 5. (That will finally climb up to 1600-1615).
So: my comment : "
3rd wave- up to 1520-1527
4rd wave down to 1465-1475
5th wave up to 1565-1585 (1600-1615 with a little bit of luck)''
means: 3rd, 4rd, 5th wave described up there are all sub-waves of the 3'rd wave(still rolling now, with a target at 1565-1585).
Then we have a down 4 wave (target not known but should not exceed the top of wave 2).
Then we have an exhausted up wave 5 that should reach 1600- 1615.
In addition: after that an ABC of sideways movement and after that a little bit of downside rumble :). I don't know if down to 1266 - 1107 or lower :).
But that should be the equivalent of something quite bad happened. FED at that moment should have lost at that moment the power to influence the stocks. And that should be something very bad. Possible reasons:
- shock created by a profound and tectonic movement from bonds to stocks that could provoke spike for several days/weeks of 10yUS bonds interest of more than 0.35-0.5%/day
- problems with potential war in middle east (oil spikes and at the first stage rockets the stocks , but on medium and long term might serioussly depress the consumer sentiment due to inflation - some oil prices are not sustainable for consumer sentiment and purchasing power).
- problems with China - the main manufacturer of the world.
- potential black swans.
Hope I made myself clear, sorry for the long message,
V.
Arnie ,
ReplyDeletei am Planning to stay long upto 1520 , then take profit from the longs and short from 1520 level for the 3-5% drop around 1475 , then go long again for the big wave 5 upto 1565.
Is this a good plan, you thing?
I must say after following this sight for a year, most you bozos are wrong. You kept calling for the roll over, the fiscal cliff not to be met, your TA said "watch out" we are going to break this, and now hear we are. After all your this and that, 14,000. Losers
ReplyDeleteyou are the one that kept telling to close all the shorts , between 25 and 30 December last year?
Deletethere was an Anon that kept saying that that time.....
V.
The anonymous troll is back. That is a very good sign. - Ande
ReplyDelete@ all:
ReplyDeleteif KS doesn't get mad on me for citing other sites here: here's the FED's POMO for February 2012...
http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/tot_operation_schedule.html
might be interesting for anyone trying to short the market. The so-called ''free'' market.
The ''free'' market from the ''free'' world.
Thank you FED for this great ''Frankenstein-type'' financial experiment!
V.
p.s. when there will come the time to a real adjustment of markets ... a very big hole in the ground will be made. A true free market never forgives and never forgets!
Arnie, thanks for the explanation.
ReplyDeleteOne of the analyst said ftse target of of 6491 to 6556 which tires in with S&P around 1565 (sub wave 5) , thats as far as they go, so they dont say anything about wave 4 down and wave 5 up to 1600.
The sub wave 4 is what i am waiting for to be able to get out of my underwater short positions - around 1465 - any idea whne u think we will see this sub 4th wave?
Also wanted to know how to view the UTIL and Rind charts , is this something i can view from keystone or my trading palteform eg IG markets.
Also please can u give me your view on :
i am Planning to stay long upto 1520 -1527, then take profit from the longs and short from 1520- 1527 level for the 3-5% drop around 1475 , then go long again for the sub wave 5 upto 1565.
Is this a good plan, you thing?
Thank you for taking the time to reply.
@ Anon:
Delete:)
ok, let's take it easy.
The response is not Arnie's, it's mine (another Anon - i sign with "V." )
The second: i named "subwave" the internal waves of a bigger wave. We are in a bigger wave 3 (that has 5 internal sub waves - we are now in the 3rd subwave of the bigger 3 wave; so i expect in my wiev a 4th bigger down wave and a 5th up wave - the one up to 1600-1615, do you understand me?).
I have no idea when the subwave 4 of the bigger wave 3 might appear...watch the 1520-1530 area.
For util and other things to check use http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui
In the area from the upper left of the chart write " $util " (or others with "$" in front of it). For Rind I don't know, check the search box from KS, here in the chart.
You're on shorts from 1465? Why didn't established from the start a stop-loss point and a gain profit point? For your own good, use stop loss points and you have to have a clear view of what is the trend in your view, why it's like that and up to what level will the trend go. If the market moves against you you have to use a stop loss point according to your personal risk-profit-loss assessement. My stop loss for exemple variates from -5% to -10% also according to the volume of position.
In case of your plan , yes, it might be good. But it really doesn't matter what I (or other persons) might think - it's your money and your decisions. If a loss appears nobody is accountable for that loss and this thing should be 100% clear in your head. You might be furious and swear and kick things if you loose on other person's opinion but you are the only responsible person. Never follow others.
Study TA (technical analysis), follow the instruments used by others (including especially KS) and built your own vision.
What i have wrote up there for you (with waves and subwaves) it's my vision and I might be dead wrong, don't follow me! The most healthy approach it's when a trader has a clear chart (no TA indications, no nothing) and he starts to check things and calculate levels of support/resistence and stuff like that.
Forget what analysists say , forget all Soros, Demark and and others. When you have a clear chart in front of you after studying TA a whole new world appears under your vision and approach! Forget analysts - they're 200% garbage - do your own homework! ... the TV analysts appear to heard the sheeps in one direction or another and so the Big Guys (big banking institutions)will have their accounting counter-part (each bull needs a bear with money in the market and viceversa).
It's for your own good what i'm saying here, i'm not an evil person with you. Maybe somebodyelse would have stuffed your head with it's market view and his vision, but it's not right for you.
Bet your money in the market when you are strong sure about your position. there's no problem if from time to time you stay in cash waiting for the right position to appear... I never chase markets, I let them come to me :) ...
Take care,
V.
Hi V
ReplyDeleteThank u for your response.
I got my self into deep trouble at the moment , as i am still new to this. What u saying is 100% correct.
Would it be possiable for me to call you or skype you,i really need a little help to get me out of the position i am in, as i dont know enough at the moment, so your expert option is valued. My email address is :indrennaicker@yahoo.co.uk, maybe we could have a chat , your help and view is appreciated.
Regards.
Hey V,
ReplyDeleteCan you tell me what was subwave 2 top of the big wave 3?
Would like share what my position is with u , so will highly appreciate an email from you.
Regards
Hy.
DeleteAccording to my opinion the 2nd wave of the big 3rd wave was between 1442 (17/21.12.2012) and 1389 (28.12.2012).
So the top of th subwave 3 of the big wave 3 is at 1442-1446 (that area).
I'm faaaaaar from being an expert with only 6 months active trading experience. i should be a big liar (for you and for me) to accept the idea that i am an expert.
''I got my self into deep trouble at the moment , as i am still new to this.'' ->
ok, so am I (being new to this).
I have certain ideas but you should develop your own view.
You could have an active or a passive approach.
The active approach assumes to load some more shorts in the 1520-1530 area to dilute the cost of the first shorts.
The passive approach assumes to follow the market and when it gets at the end of the 4rd subwave of the 3rd wave (1475-1480 - a conservative target / 1460-1464 - a wilder target, harder to be reached)dump the shorts.
Take my numbers with a big grain of salt cause i'm only a human and i might be wrong in my figures calculation.
If you choose the active approach please remember that this is the most dangerous approach because you're practically fighting FED in that very moment.
Take a look at the link from my previous message with the POMO FED's program. NEVER EVER short during those days - you don't have billions to fight the FED!!! FED choosed to seize the free market ..there's no free market anymore now.... even when a negative correction period will start, it won't be free it will be well controlled by the big banking institutions that have "ammo" from FED. It's not a fair game, I know.
NEVER EVER TRY TO ASSUME POSITIONS BEFORE THE MARKET ALLOWS YOU BY IT'S CONFIRMED MOVES!
I paid good money for learning that! (read: i loose money in wrong transactions :D).
Ok, my opinion is to follow the passive approach , not the active one because you assume a smaller quantity of risk. And for the future , use a well determined system of risk approach - with fixed (no mobile) stop loss points and gain profit points (also not mobile).
The trading markets are a thing were emotions are traded using value, using money.
Learn TA, keep a straight clear mind and also keep your emotions (fear as well as greed) under straight discipline. Don't let yourself overrun by them, you are the real ruler, the real boss.
V.
@ Anon:
Deleteone more thing:
watch this for gaining more understanding of FED's continuous market rape ... we are heading to a great damn disaster during the end of 2013 or in 2014 ...
global stagflation tells you something? that means recession + higher rampant inflation...
http://www.reuters.com/video/2013/01/30/reuters-tv-how-the-fed-built-a-3-trillion-balance-s?videoId=240855423&videoChannel=117850
those guys in FED are real sociopaths , no doubt about it .....
V.
Thanks V, That was my plan as well to dump the shorts at end of subwave 3 of big wave 3.
ReplyDelete"So the top of th subwave 3 of the big wave 3 is at 1442-1446 (that area)" You mean top of subwave "2"! right not 3 of the big wave 3 , in this line?
Just to be clear i am short oon the ftse not s&P but ftse follows thw s&p.So these waves will also apply to the ftse.
my avg on the ftse is 5857, was thinking at 6200 i can cut a few poistions, but whats is i keep the same number og longs and shorts, that way i wont need to put more funds in,and as soon as the big drop of big wave 4 starts,i could keep cutting the longs to B/E and keep going long lower,until the shorts and longs are equal, then i cut all the longs and shorts- just thinking out loud ?
If the ftse target is 6556 , what will this be on S&P?
How do i start leaning TA , any books,courses u recommend?
Thanks
''"So the top of th subwave 3 of the big wave 3 is at 1442-1446 (that area)" You mean top of subwave "2"!''
Deleteyes,that's right, sorry, a typing error.
i don't have any recommendation, use google and start with basics - candlesticks patterns, index indicators - macd, rsi, others , stuff like that.
V.
Sorry , meat to say ,dump the shorts at the end of subwave 4 of big wave 3.
ReplyDeleteV, do u have a screen shot of the chart higligting these waves, would be helpfull if you could email that to be, my email address is indrennaicker@yahoo.co.uk
ReplyDeleteDont worry i wont bombard u with emails :-)
Indren